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My last article Bill Schroer Goes on the Record About Being Fired by AANR started up a wonderful dialogue and lively yet positive discourse (YAY!!!). In the opinions section, there were a number of points brought up by a number of different people that I believed should be addressed all together in a new article. So given that the dust has settled a bit, I will address these additional concerns here one by one.<br />First, just to get it out of the way Many have mentioned the lack of AANR contribution in my coverage of this issue.<br />So after approaching a couple of others, I was left without official AANR voice which was depressed, but not surprising.<br />Now, here are some of the main points / issues that people brought up.<br />Concerns by Nudists About AANR<br />Since I 'm no longer an AANR member, some folks had said that I don't have a right to talk about this dilemma.<br /><br /><br />Just like I 've the right have an opinion about the NRA, I see no reason this same reasoning would not apply in a field that I am really effective in.<br />Some had said that I am only out to get AANR.<br />For the record, I am not anti anything. AANR, in its preceding cycle, has had many wonderful achievements. I simply wish I could say exactly the same about today's AANR. Nevertheless , once they do, I shall be the first (I trust) to point those out!<br />I do, however, have strong ideological problems with the manner AANR has been run, managed and encouraged as well as particular policies they apply (and undoubtedly the ones they choose to ignore). I am on the record for differing with their forced membership policies, with the fact which they don't push 100% AANR clubs adhere to 100% of AANR's morals / ethics (as AANR present them), the fact that they are inconsistent with the manner they address clubs and so forth.<br />All this without any official help from AANR (though not for a lack of trying).<br />Why even bring up the AANR dilemma?<br />Since AANR themselves did not care to address or inform their members on the particulars, I simply sought to find out what happened. Many FKK'ers are additionally AANR members and I for one, believe it's important for us and them to understand what AANR is doing.<br />I chose to share those findings on our website because I'm in favor of transparency. Aside from any problems you may have with me personally, if you didn't like the issues in the article then you certainly can take up your concerns with AANR - stop shooting the messenger and begin focusing on the actual issues!<br />Some said that I / FKK haven't tried to help AANR.<br />For those who called me out for not supporting AANR let me just point out a couple of facts:<br />For the last three to four years, I 've been attempting to get AANR to do a favorable piece about their accomplishments and future goals.<br />I have offered to help them with their on-line problems. The areas I felt I could really impact their organization would function as the facets that pertain to AANR and the web. It is no big secret that AANR has difficulties in communication, PR, marketing, online standing, social networking and membership outreach. FKK also offers a more extensive reach and I thought I could help AANR fortify their foundation as well as grow it.<br />While I thought AANR would be happy to get any help they can, the replies I 've gotten from them were less than enthusiastic. Several times they mocked my offer, other times they only said they valued the offer and would keep it in mind. I additionally, on a number of occasions, had to email them a few times only to get someone to email me back (an on-going problem of theirs).<br />For those of you who may not understand, the internet is where I thrive. I have worked along side firms such as google, yahoo and bing and even beta test their products when they request me to. When I offered to help AANR, I was somewhat befuddled by their response. In the &quot;real world&quot; I could bill anywhere from $100 - $500 an hour for my view and yet, AANR saw no value in me or my view. So I just quit offering.<br />And furthermore:<br />We have created good money for different clubs and have never asked for anything in return. We also signed up lots of our members to AANR. We do what we can, when we can.<br />We provide naturist clubs to advertise on our website, yet very few see the worth is spending the $60 / month. I find this strange because we've got an extremely targeted audience and if we were to charge $0.03 per click, we would be making a ton more money! If this were any other industry, we'd be making quite a bit of money only from ad revenues (and we'd never be charging this kind of minute amount).<br />We're now helping one club develop a brand new website for a fraction of what it should cost and we do so happily. They see the worth and we want them to succeed!<br />'FKK only gripes but offers no help to the naturist community.'<br />Resorts and clubs are whining about the decline in memberships and day visits yet they don't seem to be willing to invest in growing their following.<br />If you ask me, the biggest offenders for why Naturism / Naturism is diminishing in the U.S. are the resorts and clubs. Many are not promoting their company and others are going about it in the most back-ass-wards way potential.<br />While they do have legitimate reasons for anxiety, they're not willing to buy the time and work we do. A person's time has value, particularly if they are doing something for someone else. If [https://pbase.com/topics/burton36robles/the_journaling_of_costello_694 The Best Way To Look Great Nude the Naturist Way] aren't willing to put money into the drastically reduced costs we offer, then why should we help? Yes, we'd be miserable to see them go but we do need to eat.<br />And a side note about Nudism and the Internet:<br />I will keep beating this message until folks begin to shift their approach.<br />The internet is the cheapest and best approach to grow any following. Especially since many resorts still bill us their day fees even when we go simply to write about them or even when we've events and create several thousand dollars for them while making pretty much nothing for ourselves).<br />So with [http://hildebrandt12sosa.mystrikingly.com/blog/given-them-and-believe-that-the-all-natural-gives-them-the-freedom-to-be-who The Fortunate Performers in Ocularpation Wall Street Head To Court] in your mind, I'm merely saying that if organizations, naturist clubs and naturist resorts don't begin changing their strategy, they'll not live. While they may lash out at X or Y, they actually have no one to blame but themselves.<br />Having said that, [https://my.getjealous.com/fitzgerald29fitzgerald It's Time for Naturist Clubs to Alter Their Policies on Genital Jewelry] and Naturism in and of themselves will survive.<br />I hope I managed to articulate myself and address the largest worries that came about from your Bill Schroer/ AANR dilemma. That said, please comment and I'd like to know if I missed anything.<br />This article about was published by Young Naturists and Young Nudists America FKK<br />Tags: AANR, family naturism, nudist community, organizations, young nudists and naturists<br />Category: Naturism and Naturism, Naturist Organizations, Social Nudity Sites<br />About the Author (Author Profile)<br />Jordan Blum is a lifelong nudie and cofounder of Naturist Portal.<br />
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My last post Bill Schroer Goes on the Record About Being Fired by AANR ignited up a excellent talk and dynamic yet positive discourse (YAY!!!). In the comments section, there were quite a few points brought up by several different people that I thought should be addressed all together in a brand new article. So since the dust has settled a bit, I 'll address these additional concerns here one by one.<br /><br />So after approaching a number of others, I was left without any official AANR voice that was miserable, but not surprising.<br />Now, here are a few of the main points / issues that folks brought up.<br /> [https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/family-nudism-photos.html nudist girlies] by Nudists About AANR<br />Since I am no longer an AANR member, some folks had said that I don't have a right to talk about this problem.<br />Just like I have the right have an opinion about the NRA, I see no reason this same reasoning wouldn't normally use in a field that I am really effective in.<br />Some had said that I 'm merely out to get AANR.<br />For the record, I 'm not anti anything. Not even AANR! AANR, in its preceding cycle, has had many wonderful achievements. I simply wish I could say precisely the same about today's AANR. Nevertheless , once they do, I shall function as the first (I hope) to point those out!<br />I do, however, have strong ideological problems with the way AANR will be run, managed and promoted along with specific policies they enforce (and of course the ones they choose to discount). I will be on the record for differing with their forced membership policies, with the fact that they do not induce 100% AANR clubs conform to 100% of AANR's morals / ethics (as AANR present them), the fact that they are inconsistent with the manner they treat clubs and so forth.<br />For people who are asserting that I 'm outside to get AANR I 'd only like to say when you'd have read my coverage of the Bill Schroer issue, you'd have seen that I spent a ton of time studying, keeping an open mind and doing my very best to pass along the facts as best I could. All this without any official help from AANR (though not for a lack of trying).<br />Why even bring up the AANR issue?<br />Since AANR themselves did not care to address or advise their members on the particulars, I only sought to learn what happened. [https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/beach-sex.html https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/beach-sex.html] are additionally AANR members and I for one, believe it's essential for us and them to know what AANR is doing.<br />I chose to share those findings on our web site because I am in favor of foil. Aside from any issues you may have with me personally, if you failed to like the issues in this article then you can take up your concerns with AANR - stop shooting the messenger and begin focusing on the real problems!<br />Some said that I / FKK haven't tried to help AANR.<br />For people who called me out for not supporting AANR let me just point out a few facts:<br />For the last three to four years, I 've been trying to get AANR to do a positive piece about their accomplishments and future aims.<br />I 've offered to help them with their online dilemmas. The places I felt I could actually influence their organization would function as the facets that pertain to AANR and the web. It is no big secret that AANR has problems in communication, PR, marketing, online standing, social networking and membership outreach. FKK even offers a broader reach and I believed I could help AANR strengthen their foundation and also grow it.<br />While I believed AANR would be happy to get any help they can, the replies I have gotten from them were less than enthused. [https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/nudism-family.html https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/nudism-family.html] of times they mocked my offer, other times they only said they appreciated the offer and would ensure that it remains in mind. I also, on quite a few occasions, had to email them a few times only to get someone to e-mail me back (an ongoing problem of theirs).<br />For those of you who may not know, the internet is where I thrive. I've worked along side companies for example google, yahoo and bing and even beta test their products when they ask me to. So when I offered to help AANR, I was somewhat befuddled by their response. In the &quot;real world&quot; I could charge anywhere from $100 - $500 an hour for my view and yet, AANR saw no value in me or my opinion. So I simply ceased offering.<br />And furthermore:<br />We've created good money for different clubs and haven't asked for anything in return. We also signed up lots of our members to AANR. During certainly one of our summer gatherings we even had Jim from Juniper Woods (the president of AANR East at the time) give a talk about why he believes people should support AANR. We do what we can, when we can.<br />We provide nudist clubs to advertise on our website, yet very few see the worth is spending the $60 / month. I find this strange because we've got an extremely targeted audience and if we were to charge $0.03 per click, we would be making a ton more money! If this were any other sector, we would be making a ton of money merely from advertising sales (and we'd never be charging such a minute amount).<br />We're now helping one club develop a fresh website for a fraction of what it should cost and we do so happily. They see the value and we want them to succeed!<br />'FKK just gripes but offers no help to the nudist community.'<br /><br /><br />Resorts and clubs are whining about the decline in memberships and day visits yet they do not seem to be willing to invest in growing their subsequent.<br />If you ask me, the biggest culprits for why Naturism / Nudism is dropping in the U.S. are the resorts and clubs. Many are not promoting their business and others are going about it in the most back-ass-wards manner potential.<br />While they do have valid reasons for concern, they're not willing to purchase the time and work we do. An individual's time has value, especially if they can be doing something for someone else. If naturist clubs aren't willing to put money into the radically reduced costs we offer, then why should we help? Yes, we would be sad to see them go but we do need to eat.<br />And a side note about Nudism and the Internet:<br />I will keep beating this message until folks start to shift their strategy.<br />The web is the cheapest and best approach to grow any following. Particularly since many resorts still bill us their day fees even when we go simply to write about them or even when we've events and generate a few thousand dollars for them while making pretty much nothing for ourselves).<br />So with that in your mind, I'm simply saying that if organizations, naturist clubs and nudist resorts do not start changing their strategy, they'll not survive.<br />Nevertheless, Naturism and Nudism in and of themselves will survive.<br />I expect I was able to articulate myself and address the biggest concerns that came about in the Bill Schroer/ AANR problem. Having said that, please comment and I'd like to know if I lost anything.<br />This post about was published by Young Naturists and Young Nudists America FKK<br />Labels: AANR, family nudism, naturist community, organizations, young nudists and naturists<br />Type: Naturism and Naturism, Naturist Organizations, Social Nudity Websites<br />About the Writer (Author Profile)<br />Jordan Blum is a lifelong nudie and cofounder of Naturist Portal.<br />

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My last post Bill Schroer Goes on the Record About Being Fired by AANR ignited up a excellent talk and dynamic yet positive discourse (YAY!!!). In the comments section, there were quite a few points brought up by several different people that I thought should be addressed all together in a brand new article. So since the dust has settled a bit, I 'll address these additional concerns here one by one.

So after approaching a number of others, I was left without any official AANR voice that was miserable, but not surprising.
Now, here are a few of the main points / issues that folks brought up.
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Since I am no longer an AANR member, some folks had said that I don't have a right to talk about this problem.
Just like I have the right have an opinion about the NRA, I see no reason this same reasoning wouldn't normally use in a field that I am really effective in.
Some had said that I 'm merely out to get AANR.
For the record, I 'm not anti anything. Not even AANR! AANR, in its preceding cycle, has had many wonderful achievements. I simply wish I could say precisely the same about today's AANR. Nevertheless , once they do, I shall function as the first (I hope) to point those out!
I do, however, have strong ideological problems with the way AANR will be run, managed and promoted along with specific policies they enforce (and of course the ones they choose to discount). I will be on the record for differing with their forced membership policies, with the fact that they do not induce 100% AANR clubs conform to 100% of AANR's morals / ethics (as AANR present them), the fact that they are inconsistent with the manner they treat clubs and so forth.
For people who are asserting that I 'm outside to get AANR I 'd only like to say when you'd have read my coverage of the Bill Schroer issue, you'd have seen that I spent a ton of time studying, keeping an open mind and doing my very best to pass along the facts as best I could. All this without any official help from AANR (though not for a lack of trying).
Why even bring up the AANR issue?
Since AANR themselves did not care to address or advise their members on the particulars, I only sought to learn what happened. https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/beach-sex.html are additionally AANR members and I for one, believe it's essential for us and them to know what AANR is doing.
I chose to share those findings on our web site because I am in favor of foil. Aside from any issues you may have with me personally, if you failed to like the issues in this article then you can take up your concerns with AANR - stop shooting the messenger and begin focusing on the real problems!
Some said that I / FKK haven't tried to help AANR.
For people who called me out for not supporting AANR let me just point out a few facts:
For the last three to four years, I 've been trying to get AANR to do a positive piece about their accomplishments and future aims.
I 've offered to help them with their online dilemmas. The places I felt I could actually influence their organization would function as the facets that pertain to AANR and the web. It is no big secret that AANR has problems in communication, PR, marketing, online standing, social networking and membership outreach. FKK even offers a broader reach and I believed I could help AANR strengthen their foundation and also grow it.
While I believed AANR would be happy to get any help they can, the replies I have gotten from them were less than enthused. https://s3.amazonaws.com/2-naturist/nudism-family.html of times they mocked my offer, other times they only said they appreciated the offer and would ensure that it remains in mind. I also, on quite a few occasions, had to email them a few times only to get someone to e-mail me back (an ongoing problem of theirs).
For those of you who may not know, the internet is where I thrive. I've worked along side companies for example google, yahoo and bing and even beta test their products when they ask me to. So when I offered to help AANR, I was somewhat befuddled by their response. In the "real world" I could charge anywhere from $100 - $500 an hour for my view and yet, AANR saw no value in me or my opinion. So I simply ceased offering.
And furthermore:
We've created good money for different clubs and haven't asked for anything in return. We also signed up lots of our members to AANR. During certainly one of our summer gatherings we even had Jim from Juniper Woods (the president of AANR East at the time) give a talk about why he believes people should support AANR. We do what we can, when we can.
We provide nudist clubs to advertise on our website, yet very few see the worth is spending the $60 / month. I find this strange because we've got an extremely targeted audience and if we were to charge $0.03 per click, we would be making a ton more money! If this were any other sector, we would be making a ton of money merely from advertising sales (and we'd never be charging such a minute amount).
We're now helping one club develop a fresh website for a fraction of what it should cost and we do so happily. They see the value and we want them to succeed!
'FKK just gripes but offers no help to the nudist community.'


Resorts and clubs are whining about the decline in memberships and day visits yet they do not seem to be willing to invest in growing their subsequent.
If you ask me, the biggest culprits for why Naturism / Nudism is dropping in the U.S. are the resorts and clubs. Many are not promoting their business and others are going about it in the most back-ass-wards manner potential.
While they do have valid reasons for concern, they're not willing to purchase the time and work we do. An individual's time has value, especially if they can be doing something for someone else. If naturist clubs aren't willing to put money into the radically reduced costs we offer, then why should we help? Yes, we would be sad to see them go but we do need to eat.
And a side note about Nudism and the Internet:
I will keep beating this message until folks start to shift their strategy.
The web is the cheapest and best approach to grow any following. Particularly since many resorts still bill us their day fees even when we go simply to write about them or even when we've events and generate a few thousand dollars for them while making pretty much nothing for ourselves).
So with that in your mind, I'm simply saying that if organizations, naturist clubs and nudist resorts do not start changing their strategy, they'll not survive.
Nevertheless, Naturism and Nudism in and of themselves will survive.
I expect I was able to articulate myself and address the biggest concerns that came about in the Bill Schroer/ AANR problem. Having said that, please comment and I'd like to know if I lost anything.
This post about was published by Young Naturists and Young Nudists America FKK
Labels: AANR, family nudism, naturist community, organizations, young nudists and naturists
Type: Naturism and Naturism, Naturist Organizations, Social Nudity Websites
About the Writer (Author Profile)
Jordan Blum is a lifelong nudie and cofounder of Naturist Portal.